This is a transcript from an Interview with Jose Vidrio of Highland Park Training on our Podcast, Out of Session with Kindman & Co. Read on for a discussion about new parenting—especially fatherhood, the importance of gentleness and sitting with discomfort, building new versions of masculinity, and cultivating accessible and inclusive gym culture that contradicts stereotypical forms of masculinity.

As parents, many of us strive to be perfect. We are afraid of what failure might look like and the possibility of hurting those we love most dearly: our children. What about being “good enough?” The idea is that babies and children actually benefit when their parents are imperfect…